QUOTE (zeriah @ Dec 19 2008, 11:30 PM)

I've told you not to double post before, this is your last chance or I'll have to warn you.
Anyway Goku doesn't like to "show off" his strength in a way to push himself to his limits. He doesn't like to blow up planets to test his strength, and Akira hasn't given Goku a super weight machine that would test his strength as Super Saiyan Oozaru (his probably "psychical transformation". But we know he could destroy Planets,suns, moons etc with just a small fraction of his energy. If he was Gogeta he could probably make a single explosion strong enough to wipe out an entire galaxy. So while Superman can move planets Goku can destroy them with a mere ounce of his energy.
Also it's hardly fair. Superman has gone from author to author so quickly it's hardly "superman" anymore. The original writers only intended him to be "Faster than a speeding bullet" and "More powerful than a locomotive". So he has changed much from the original concept. I could say "Well Goku has the strength of a googol tons". Now do I win the argument?
Also wasn't Superman severely damaged by a mere atom bomb?
Ok, I will not double post again.
Show me some DBZ canon of Goku's strengh. He's not Gogeta.
a googol tons? Show me some canon of Goku lifting a googlol tons.
No. That's a misrepresenation. Not canon.
Here are scans of Superman surviving a blast = to 1,000,000 nukes;
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...121910pm8yp.jpghttp://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...089054127na.jpgSuperman VS Goku
-Why Superman beats Goku
The Superman VS Goku fight is quite possibly the biggest comic/manga crossover ever. No matter how much each side debates, there is never a full conclusion drawn.
Every DBZ fan boy will tell you Goku would take this fight easily. This is simply and plainly wrong. We will be discussing Superman Pre-Crisis, Kingdom Come, Prime, and One Million Superman.
And you know there are versions of Superman that are not weak against Kryptonite? In Kingdom Come, Due to a lifetime of absorbing yellow-solar radiation, he is more powerful than ever, and is even immune to kryptonite. Then There's Superman Prime. (see Link)
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...Primenewbio.jpgThe first matter of discussion in balance of power is The Sword Of Superman. The sword formed during creation's Big Bang with an "S" logo emblazoned in its handle; this "Sword of Superman" floats around space for centuries until it finally comes into contact with Superman. When Superman grasps the sword, it begins to make him an all-powerful, all-knowing super deity.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/SOS.jpg Second matter of business. Superman sat in the sun for a millennia and became practically omnipotent, a.k.a One Million Superman, a.k.a Sun-Dipped Superman. He is capable to travelling faster than the speed of light, he is also strong enough to punch through the time barrier, leap between planets and invulnerable to practically everything. Along with the traditional Kryptonian senses ten new abilities were added to the Dynasty by the marriage of a Superman to Queen Gzntplzk of the Fifth Dimension. These new abilities include techno-rapport (the ability to control computers), limited control of magnetism, genesis level intellect, super-ESP (a form of super-hypnosis), no longer as susceptible to magic, the ability to think billions of different lines of thought at the same time, etc.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...4pg18_super.jpgNumba Three. The Feats of Pre-Crisis Superman are just damn unbelievable.
Feat 1: Destroying a solar system with a sneeze.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...neezeae9og9.jpg Feat 2: Superman towing planets
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...wingplanets.jpg Feat 3: Blowing a sun into a space cloud:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/SUPES.jpg Feat 4: Blowing the Earth back into Orbit
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/pc1dc4.jpg These are just a few of the feats I see in the silver age comics. Superman once traveled so fast that he was destroying the fabric of space and time and the Spectre had to show up and tell him to slow the hell down. There was once a story where Superman, standing in front of Lois Lane, heard the cries of another galaxy, and, within the time it took Lois to blink, had flown to said galaxy, ended the problem, and returned without her even noticing. He has re-ignited a sun by crashing two moons together and lighting them with his heat vision. Superman can run so fast around the earth that he turned back time.
All-Star Superman. This guy is freakin’ unbeatable.
Number 4.Goku can only lift like 40 tons; here are scans of Goku in Other World, preparing for the Tenkaichi Budokai:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/kjhk.jpghttp://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/kjjkm.jpg Here is an example of Superman’s Strength:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/as1xf1.jpg No matter how you draw it out, 200 Quintillion tons >>>>>>>>>>>>40 tons. That is a huge gap that Goku just can’t overcome.
Here are some other Superman Feats:
Holding a black Hole
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...ckholeJLA77.jpgFeat 2: breaking through dimension walls:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...a1/untitled.jpgHere are scans of Superman escaping a double black hole:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...led128qt3bk.jpghttp://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...led138wy8fy.jpghttp://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...led140kt3ew.jpghttp://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...led152oe8eq.jpghttp://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...led166ov4wo.jpgAnd here are scans of superman vibrating his molecules (Phasing) so fast that a blast just goes right through him(Something no DBZ character has ever done)
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...rmanfast3ar.jpgAnd here are scans proving that Supes heat vision is even hotter than stars;
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...tvision30nk.jpgand supes can snipe people with his heat vision;
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJ...tvision24vv.jpgThere is no way Goku could win Against The Man Of Steel. These versions of Superman are practically inmpervious to harm.
So, PreCrisis, Sun-Dipped Superman, with the full power of the sword of Superman CANNOT BE BEATEN!!!