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post Oct 9 2009, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE (sMILEY4ever @ Oct 9 2009, 10:13 AM) *
I don't get one thing. Madara is not so strong atm, yet he thinks he can be as strong as Rikudou Senin was to supress the juubi ? That's just wrong. If he's just a shell of his former self, I don't think he'll be able to control the juubi.

Wasn't part of attaining all the tailed beasts was to revitalise his body, and then that allows him to be strong enough to achieve other objectives i.e. the rest of the moon plan

QUOTE (sMILEY4ever @ Oct 9 2009, 10:13 AM) *
Oh and Madara declaring the fourth ninja world war is weird. Akatsuki was already at war with every country (except rain due to Nagato). I wonder how can he make the kages fight each other just because he wants to.

I thought they were just wanted criminals, only fighting when they want something? But with this war, they will be an actual entity fighting back. I don't think it'll be hard for them to start a fight. They do have a lot of power.
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I thought they were just wanted criminals, only fighting when they want something? But with this war, they will be an actual entity fighting back. I don't think it'll be hard for them to start a fight. They do have a lot of power.
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But who are you considering as "THEY"??? Akatsuki (as far as we know) have all been defeated! Only Madara, Kisame, and Zetsu remain. But I guess they WILL be using the 7 tailed beasts they have. Let's see HOW though.
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post Oct 9 2009, 09:18 PM
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YES YES YES!!

WAR!! WAR WAR!!

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!

Naruto just shot past Bleach.....

A-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

This will be great!

A war!! I've always wanted a war to break out in Naruto A-HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!! YES! This is great!

oh and BTW I loved seeing Kakuzu again....

I can't wait till next Chapter....

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QUOTE (Hotagi101 @ Oct 9 2009, 02:03 PM) *
*shrugs* It looks like to me he is still pretty damn strong with his eye techniques, so I think he would be able to subdue it lol. I mean come on, it's the Sharigan laugh.gif You doubt it's power? He just sent two people to another Dimension to be healed and away from harm laugh.gif So that is what happened to Osama Bin Laden...

They are on the same side for now ^^ But one of the village leaders will get hungry for power or lose all hope and start allying themselves with Madara. It's only a matter of time really.

LOL Well even though the Rinnegan is supposed to be stronger Kishi's really obssesed with sharingan so he'll find a way to make Madara strong enough to supress the juubi but it's kind of ridiculous to me....LOL at the Osama Bin Laden comment tongue.gif If one of the villages is planning on joining Madara it won't be Raikage since I doubt he'll turn in his own brother and well Gaara who already said he won't hand over Naruto....

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heh heh heh

hahahaha

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

YES YES YES!!

WAR!! WAR WAR!!

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!

Naruto just shot past Bleach.....

A-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

This will be great!

A war!! I've always wanted a war to break out in Naruto A-HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!! YES! This is great!

oh and BTW I loved seeing Kakuzu again....

I can't wait till next Chapter....

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post Oct 9 2009, 10:21 PM
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Don't be silly 5littlepigs-Dono!

He was in the beginning opening picture!

I loved this chapter makes me think...

What the heck are the Kages going to do next =o Try and rip Madara to shreds....

and it freaked me out that Madara's eye hole is a vacuum.... BAHAHAHHA! I loved it though.


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QUOTE (~Hotagi)
-_- No. I let your little public crucify of a person in public (when it was being handled privately go by) but this is too far. You've already humiliated him enough. Now you are just being bullies. Wow this is just * shakes head* You guys are not even letting this kid learn the ropes. He has only been a mod for a little bit. Honestly, give the kid room to grow and be constructive =[
It's a very sad day to see a place to where people go to escape the stupidity of the world be brought into their safe haven =[
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post Oct 10 2009, 12:16 AM
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I really like this chapter. It was amazing. Pretty good develop of the story. There was no battle. but it didn't dissapoint. Based on what i've seen here and what I have concluded that the bijuus are going to have new hosts. Maybe hawk, maybe sasuke or new characters. Beacuse, there's no way that madara and company can start a war and give a little fight against all countries. They don't have an army, maybe was probable if it was the whole akatsuki team. But right now I don't see any real war. Unless madara would use guerrilla.

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Well yeah ^^ Maybe he'll seal them inside some new member s =o

Like Kishi said that he was going to introduce new members...... Hmmmm


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QUOTE (~Hotagi)
-_- No. I let your little public crucify of a person in public (when it was being handled privately go by) but this is too far. You've already humiliated him enough. Now you are just being bullies. Wow this is just * shakes head* You guys are not even letting this kid learn the ropes. He has only been a mod for a little bit. Honestly, give the kid room to grow and be constructive =[
It's a very sad day to see a place to where people go to escape the stupidity of the world be brought into their safe haven =[
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.........I go away to a business trip for a few days, I return this morning and see this. huh.gif Wow. I loved the chapter. Finally, Kishi pulls a fast one on me lol. I did not see this coming. But I must say, it definitely pro longs the series a bit and makes things a ton more interesting. I guess this negates Sasuke being the final villain. I can see now the urgency for Sasuke and Naruto to join together to defeat Madara. Makes me think, Madara mentioned the rinnegan and the only one wielding it was Nagato but he is dead and gone. And he said it in this order "Sharingan, Mangekyou Sharingan, and Rinnegan". Which sort of says that the rinnegan is the most powerful Doujutsu, besides Fukasaku did say it was. Let me get to my point, We saw nagato had to release it with immense emotion, maybe, just maybe...Naruto secretly wields the rinnegan??? The rinnegan I believe means Samsara eyes which means the cycle of rebirth. I guess whoever is part of that bloodline at some point releases it. And Madara did say that Sasuke and Naruto are part of ancestral bloodline starting with the two sons of the Rikudo sage, follow by the Uchiha and Senju clans who were descendants from the two sons. Or maybe he just wields the The physical energy and life force from the sage much like one of his two sons did. I don't know I think I'm just jumping the gun here lol.


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QUOTE (zetsu fan105 @ Oct 9 2009, 11:21 PM) *
Don't be silly 5littlepigs-Dono!

He was in the beginning opening picture!

LOL Ok maybe I wasn't paying that much attention then..I didn't see him blush.gif

QUOTE (Mitsuhide Akechi @ Oct 10 2009, 11:41 AM) *
.........I go away to a business trip for a few days, I return this morning and see this. huh.gif Wow. I loved the chapter. Finally, Kishi pulls a fast one on me lol. I did not see this coming. But I must say, it definitely pro longs the series a bit and makes things a ton more interesting. I guess this negates Sasuke being the final villain. I can see now the urgency for Sasuke and Naruto to join together to defeat Madara. Makes me think, Madara mentioned the rinnegan and the only one wielding it was Nagato but he is dead and gone. And he said it in this order "Sharingan, Mangekyou Sharingan, and Rinnegan". Which sort of says that the rinnegan is the most powerful Doujutsu, besides Fukasaku did say it was. Let me get to my point, We saw nagato had to release it with immense emotion, maybe, just maybe...Naruto secretly wields the rinnegan??? The rinnegan I believe means Samsara eyes which means the cycle of rebirth. I guess whoever is part of that bloodline at some point releases it. And Madara did say that Sasuke and Naruto are part of ancestral bloodline starting with the two sons of the Rikudo sage, follow by the Uchiha and Senju clans who were descendants from the two sons. Or maybe he just wields the The physical energy and life force from the sage much like one of his two sons did. I don't know I think I'm just jumping the gun here lol.


Great chapter though.

The could happen since it's Kishi we're talking about, but seeing Naruto with a Doujutsu would be weird and maybe a little farfetched mellow.gif I do agree Naruto and Sasuke need to team up and beat Madara ninjastar.gif


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QUOTE (Mitsuhide Akechi @ Oct 10 2009, 04:41 PM) *
.........I go away to a business trip for a few days, I return this morning and see this. huh.gif Wow. I loved the chapter. Finally, Kishi pulls a fast one on me lol. I did not see this coming. But I must say, it definitely pro longs the series a bit and makes things a ton more interesting. I guess this negates Sasuke being the final villain. I can see now the urgency for Sasuke and Naruto to join together to defeat Madara. Makes me think, Madara mentioned the rinnegan and the only one wielding it was Nagato but he is dead and gone. And he said it in this order "Sharingan, Mangekyou Sharingan, and Rinnegan". Which sort of says that the rinnegan is the most powerful Doujutsu, besides Fukasaku did say it was. Let me get to my point, We saw nagato had to release it with immense emotion, maybe, just maybe...Naruto secretly wields the rinnegan??? The rinnegan I believe means Samsara eyes which means the cycle of rebirth. I guess whoever is part of that bloodline at some point releases it. And Madara did say that Sasuke and Naruto are part of ancestral bloodline starting with the two sons of the Rikudo sage, follow by the Uchiha and Senju clans who were descendants from the two sons. Or maybe he just wields the The physical energy and life force from the sage much like one of his two sons did. I don't know I think I'm just jumping the gun here lol.


Great chapter though.

If you remember, though, the Uchiha clan is meant to be descendants of the son with the eye techniques. Therefore, Naruto would inherit the physical energy etc and wouldn't get the Rinnegan. Tbh, I don't think we'll see the Rinnegan again for a while, at least.
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QUOTE (Monk3yLi @ Oct 10 2009, 06:38 PM) *
If you remember, though, the Uchiha clan is meant to be descendants of the son with the eye techniques. Therefore, Naruto would inherit the physical energy etc and wouldn't get the Rinnegan. Tbh, I don't think we'll see the Rinnegan again for a while, at least.




Yea I thought about that. You are right I don't think he will inherit the doujutsu itself. But it clearly shows that he did inherit the physical energy and life force though.


This chapter reminded me of that eerily spoilers from that interview with Kishi last year:



1. Akatsuki Leader's(Confirmed, it is Madara) strength can't be matched even with 3 Sannins of the leaf.

-> Pein was the leader but he was under Madaras orders.

2. There is another character in Akatsuki, and unexpected member will bring a chaos

-> Confirmed, that character being Tobi.

3. One of the Akatsuki's member becomes friend/ally with Naruto

-> Confirmed, Konan is the member to ally with Naruto.

4. Naruto's seal will be released by the end of 08, or beginning of the 09. At least 4 tails will be released, be prepared it could be shocking scene

-> Confirmed. We saw it nearly break indefinitely and it would have if it wasn't for Minato.


5. Toad dies

-> Confirmed. he did die but was return to life from Nagatos resurrection Jutsu.

6. 3 of Naruto's important people will die or get seriously injured

->Confirmed. Jiraiya died, Kakashi died but was returned as well. Tsunade is still in a coma.

7. Sasuke's skills cannot be matched against Naruto's new skills.

-> Can't say. As a Sasuke hater I could say true but I'm sure a Sasuke fan would disagree. But from what we saw realistically, Narutos powers do seem more formidable than Sasukes.


8. Sasuke v. Itachi is great scale, and later Naruto's information about family and bloodline will show up

-> Confirmed. With the conclusion being Itachis death due to his sickness. 2nd part also confirmed. We saw Minato have a conversation with Naruto before Naruto decided to release the nine tailed fox.

9. Sai, he will cause something huge(laughs)

-> Sort of confirmed. He did finally open sakuras eyes. Hmm, but still unsure if that is considered "huge".

10. 4th's secret and bloodline will be shown

-> Confirmed, by revealing the 4th's blood line with its name "Namikaze Minato"* Also confirmed by showing that the 4th is Naruto's father


11. 2 huge characters of Konoha will die.

-> Half way confirmed. Jiraiya is one. The other you could say Kakashi since he did die but, he was returned. So someone else could bite the dust...Tsunade??

12. There is a female member in Akatsuki

-> Confirmed, Konan

13. Akatsuki will invade Konoha with its mysterious beasts, and Shiranui Genma will provide great help to Konoha

-> Not yet confirmed



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1. Uchiha's secret will be revealed and 2 of the remaining will die

-> Sort of Confirmed. The secrets were revealed by Itachi, and Madara. However, Itachi is the only one dead. Either sasuke or Madara will die then.

2. Akatsuki's leader kills 6 people

->Hmm...This one is still questionable since it could talking about Madara or Pein. If its reffering to Pein than it would be confirmed. He did kill Jiraiya, kakashi, Shizune, Fukasaku, Chojis father, and I can't remember who else if he did.


3. Sasuke and Itachi's fight will cause chaos; Uchiha, Uchiha Madara's secrets are revealed and all the skills of the MS are revealed. The fight will end with death of one.

-> Confirmed. The fight was huge, Madaras secrets revealed and the MS skills revealed as well. Susanoo, Amaterasu, and Tsukiyomi. And Itachi died.

4. Naruto will collide with Pain; Kakashi's team will collide with Tobi. There will be big turnaround on Tobi v. Kakashi's team. Naruto v. Pain will be fights of the "beasts". Be prepared, during this fight there will be deaths from Naruto's team.

-> Confirmed. The fight between Naruto and Pein was epic. Kakashi did die. And their was a turn around when kakashis team met up with Tobi.

5. 3 new members will join the Akatsuki. They will be stronger than Deidara, Hidan, and Kakuzu. One of them is the brother/sister of the Hokage

-> Not yet confirmed...And I'm patiently but anxiously waiting to see.

6. Naruto's new skills and the result of the training will reveal when he fight against Pain. He have learned all of the Jiraiya's jutsu during the 3 years of the time and he became much stronger. He did not learn the "toad mode or w.e u call it". Naruto
also learned 3 of the 4th's jutsus.


->Half way confirmed. The three jutsus we have yet to see. He learned rasengan but that was a while ago even before this interview.

7. After all these fights, there will be a great war

-> Has just been confirmed with the recent chapter which reminded me of this post.

8. There will be death on Tobi v. Naruto team and one of them becomes unable to
fight.


-> Not yet confirmed

9. Jinchuuriki of the 8 tailed will be revealed, and Jinchuuriki will kill one of the Akatsuki and invades Konoha by him/herself. During the fight one will die, and one will lose his/her eyesight

-> Half confirmed. Killerbee is the 8 tail jinchuuriki. Maybe he does kill Kisame naruto_ok.gif .


Their you go...As it seems we still have to see much more.


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Pretty good post Mitsuhide. In some way affect my post, so it could be a good mixture. New akatsuki members will inherit some bijuus and those will be the beasts that attack Konoha.
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The year is almost over, whats with a "What happens in 2009 Interview?"

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For the Future: I think Madara will use the existing Biju Chakra and control the hachibi with it and attack konoha to capture Naruto. I don't have a plausible explanation, why Killerbee would attack the leaf, but i dont really think that naruto will to fall into Madaras hands. In the end he will lose because he is not in capable of to control the hugh chakra.


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The year is almost over, whats with a "What happens in 2009 Interview?"

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For the Future: I think Madara will use the existing Biju Chakra and control the hachibi with it and attack konoha to capture Naruto. I don't have a plausible explanation, why Killerbee would attack the leaf, but i dont really think that naruto will to fall into Madaras hands. In the end he will lose because he is not in capable of to control the hugh chakra.



True. But as you can see, their is still things that have yet to happen in the series. So I guess we just have to wait and see.


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About how he's going to get power, well i think there're a lot of possibilities
he controls time and space and that is already a lot
and there''s still sasuke, we still don't know what he exactky want from him
"The question is, who will teach, where will he learn and what kinda of jutsu naruto'll
have to learn to stop him?"
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QUOTE (Mitsuhide Akechi @ Oct 10 2009, 08:38 PM) *
5. 3 new members will join the Akatsuki. They will be stronger than Deidara, Hidan, and Kakuzu. One of them is the brother/sister of the Hokage

-> Not yet confirmed...And I'm patiently but anxiously waiting to see.


Well I guess we finally can see that it could be a brother/sister of Danzou that they are talking about. The whole time we were thinking it would be Tsunade.

I'm DEFINITELY anxious to see some new powerful ninjas and powerful battles!

Also, we may be seeing the battle between Naruto and Sasuke alot SOONER than we think. I could totally see Madara getting Sasuke healed right now and then forcing (or manipulating) him to go and retrieve the Kyuubi for him immediately
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wow lol I was out for a few days so I just read this chapter now. Very intersting ^^


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Nice chapter but I still hope for much much more to come after all this talking.



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I don't quite know what to say about this chapter. I found it funny how Madara just told his "take over the world plan" to everyone -such a typical villain move- and they just stood there (for the most part) listening to him. For me, the highlight of this chapter was when Gaara declared that he would protect/ not hand over Naruto. As for the plan itself, seems like everyone in this show is aiming for world peace. Ok, so that is an exaggeration but first it was the hokages, then Jiraiya, and his students, and now even Madara. Granted his method of "peace" is more of a dictatorship but still, it is the thought that counts. Why would such an awesome villain want to ruin his image so. Also, I think that the fact that he is urging Sasuke deeper and deeper into the darkness goes contrary to the idea of peace. The kid is now like an unstable weapon ready to blow up at the slightest provocation whereas at first he was unwilling to kill anyone 'cept for his brother whose death in his eyes was justified. Then again, I always take everything that Madara says with a grain of salt. I loved the part where he just declared the 4th ninja war. It was kinda cool although it also made me laugh my head off. The first thought running through my head after I finished reading the chapter was, " I wonder just how many fanfictions will be proven true now that the war is finally on the horizon".


5. 3 new members will join the Akatsuki. They will be stronger than Deidara, Hidan, and Kakuzu. One of them is the brother/sister of the Hokage

As for this point, the only new members who have joined so far are team hawk out of which Sasuke is definitely stronger than Deidara seeing as how he managed to defeat him. ( I know, I know that was an almost draw and Deidara commited suicide but the fact remains that Sasuke walked/ was carried out of that fight while Deidara lost his life, ergo the one who wins is stronger). I somehow doubt that any new members will be joining Akatsuki but if they do I'm certainly looking forward to it. It could be that Danzo sends his sibling as a spy in Akatsuki or maybe Karin is his sister(just joking:p). It could also be that Juugo is his brother seeing as how we don't really know anything about his place of origin.


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QUOTE (Ruby Ryder @ Oct 14 2009, 06:22 AM) *
I don't quite know what to say about this chapter. I found it funny how Madara just told his "take over the world plan" to everyone -such a typical villain move- and they just stood there (for the most part) listening to him. For me, the highlight of this chapter was when Gaara declared that he would protect/ not hand over Naruto. As for the plan itself, seems like everyone in this show is aiming for world peace. Ok, so that is an exaggeration but first it was the hokages, then Jiraiya, and his students, and now even Madara. Granted his method of "peace" is more of a dictatorship but still, it is the thought that counts. Why would such an awesome villain want to ruin his image so. Also, I think that the fact that he is urging Sasuke deeper and deeper into the darkness goes contrary to the idea of peace. The kid is now like an unstable weapon ready to blow up at the slightest provocation whereas at first he was unwilling to kill anyone 'cept for his brother whose death in his eyes was justified. Then again, I always take everything that Madara says with a grain of salt. I loved the part where he just declared the 4th ninja war. It was kinda cool although it also made me laugh my head off. The first thought running through my head after I finished reading the chapter was, " I wonder just how many fanfictions will be proven true now that the war is finally on the horizon".


5. 3 new members will join the Akatsuki. They will be stronger than Deidara, Hidan, and Kakuzu. One of them is the brother/sister of the Hokage

As for this point, the only new members who have joined so far are team hawk out of which Sasuke is definitely stronger than Deidara seeing as how he managed to defeat him. ( I know, I know that was an almost draw and Deidara commited suicide but the fact remains that Sasuke walked/ was carried out of that fight while Deidara lost his life, ergo the one who wins is stronger). I somehow doubt that any new members will be joining Akatsuki but if they do I'm certainly looking forward to it. It could be that Danzo sends his sibling as a spy in Akatsuki or maybe Karin is his sister(just joking:p). It could also be that Juugo is his brother seeing as how we don't really know anything about his place of origin.



Sasuke did state that Team Hawk and himself are not part of Akatsuki. They are more of a sub group. Basically, he has his own goal and his own team helping him get there. And I don't think Juugo, Karin, nor Suigetsu is as strong as Hidan, Deidara, and definitely not Kakuzu. Ok, maybe Hidan but I don't think as strong as Deidara but definitely not even close to Kakuzu. So we still haven't seen who these three members are truthfully.


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