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Kisame vs Killerbee, you know it's coming, place your bets |
 Aug 14 2009, 11:19 PM
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Aug 15 2009, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE (Mitsuhide Akechi @ Aug 15 2009, 12:52 AM)  Correct. But what I meant is he chooses not to use Ninjutsu. He much rather use physical attacks. And I don't remember ever seeing him use a hand seal for anything. And that move you are referring to with the fire punches (morning peacock I believe). IMO, I can't really say that is Ninjutsu. If so, then opening the eight celestial gates would be consider Ninjutsu as well. And it can't be because Rock lee can use it and he is unable to perform Ninjutsu based moves. I think the fire of the punches signifies the force of the chakra used to perform that move. Also, that move can only be used when the six celetial gates are open. Which is the only time we have seen him do so. One question. Remember seeing when Kisame swing his sword on naruto and negate the Kyuubis chakra. What if he can do the same with Killer Bee?? I know their is a huge difference between the two. But what if that difference was irrelevant to Kisames sword. If so, he can just swipe his sword and the eight tails chakra would disperse. I'm all for Killer Bee and want him to beat Kisame to a pulp and believe he can. But I just want to make sure that Kisame would not have any trump card on him. And that sword of his seems to be the only one. I know Killer Bee can wield any weapon, but Samehada activates a defense Mechanism when Kisame is not the one wielding it. Which doesn't make sense when Suigetsu stated that he wanted his sword. How could he have it if the only one who can is Kisame himself?? There's a lot of ninjutsu with no hand signs, the Rasengan for one. Also what you said about Kisame's sword is what I've been saying is Kisame's only shot against Bee for the last two pages haha. --------------------  (THANKS MATT!!!!!!!!!!)  Be the Ultimate Ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today! "Child obesity up, pedophilia down" - American Dad "Buckethead is twice as good a guitar player as me and Slash combined." - Dave Mustaine "Well, that is actually true." - Slash BOW DOWN TO THE BUCKETHEAD! Other |
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Aug 15 2009, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE (zeriah @ Aug 15 2009, 01:15 AM) There's a lot of ninjutsu with no hand signs, the Rasengan for one. Also what you said about Kisame's sword is what I've been saying is Kisame's only shot against Bee for the last two pages haha. I thought that hand seals were to mould chakra into a different form. Note, not shape, which is what Rasengan's all about. For Killerbee vs Sasuke, Killerbee never used one,he only channelled pure lightning chakra. Sasuke used one because it was his chidori sword. But i dont remember any other ninjutsu without hand seals, sadly lol. Care to tell me? |
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Aug 15 2009, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE (zeriah @ Aug 15 2009, 01:15 AM) There's a lot of ninjutsu with no hand signs, the Rasengan for one. Also what you said about Kisame's sword is what I've been saying is Kisame's only shot against Bee for the last two pages haha. Well it's true. I can't think of anything else that Kisame would have over Killer Bee. On one side, you have a fighter who has a mass amount of chakra and wields a chakra absorbing sword that can only be wielded by him. Not to mention he has great speed and immense strength. Is a master at water based Jutsus and when Sugeitsu attacked Killer Bee with his water jutsu while Killer Bee was in eight tail form, he then stated that Sugeitsu had the advantage in that moment. On the other side, you have a guy who can wield any sword and is a master swordsman. Can control his bijuu at any given time and has a strong relationship with his beast. Also has great speed and brute strength. Not even Sasukes sharingan along with the rest of Team Taka was a match for him. Also has great defense. When he received a strong kick from sasuke to the neck all he did was contemplate and start writing lyrics. He even blocked a chidori sword which was said to be impossible to block. Also he Would've killed sasuke (was hoping so) but Karin saved his life. Now, Sugeitsu is water based like kisame, however Killer Bee is lightning based and Sugeitsu said himself that he is weak against those type of moves. Also In eight tail form Karin stated that his Chakra levels were impossible and they needed to flee for their lives. From that it seems both are equally matched with Kisames only upperhand being his weapon but Killer Bee showed that he can physically unarmed any weapon from any fighter as he did with Sasuke and Suigeitsu. From comparing both it looks to me that Killer Bee could very well be victorious. But the most important fact is that it seems Killer Bee has a more important role in the series then Kisame. I know Kishimoto stated that he has something in mind for Kisame but it looks like its the same situation with Killer Bee. Not to mention Akatsuki is dwindling into nothing. So it is inevitable for Kisame to die. -------------------- http://www.cidi.org/incident/haiti-10a/<<< Go here to please donate and/or volunteer to help out Haiti in this dire time. If it were the other way around you would want help as well.
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Aug 15 2009, 03:30 PM
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hey am bac sorry to leave u all hanging halfway through a post (work crazy hectic) (even if u weren't that bothered) i forget what i was going on about but i have to say Mitsuhide i think u settled this for me id say tie, (mainly because i dont think naruto will gain control over the 9 tails and that if anything he'll gain dominance without help) thus killerbee's role in the series (imo) is limited to giving naruto's fights doubt we all know naruto cant die but without the 8 tails atkutski cant seal naruto.
thus its conceivable (or was rather) that naruto could have lost against pain then a whole messy rescue arc with possible sacrifice of one of naruto's important people to get him bac was possible. kisame's role as a linch pin to madara's identity is still there and as a dwindeling member of atkustski. im my eyes i think kisame and killerbee have equally important roles, (thus tie). ?where does it say madara sent kisame after killer bee i forget? --------------------   (\_/) (o.o) (><)* """"""'" |
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Aug 15 2009, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (archie the 2nd @ Aug 15 2009, 04:30 PM) ?where does it say madara sent kisame after killer bee i forget? http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/450/09/ -------------------- http://www.cidi.org/incident/haiti-10a/<<< Go here to please donate and/or volunteer to help out Haiti in this dire time. If it were the other way around you would want help as well.
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Nov 19 2009, 05:32 AM
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Academy Student  Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 19-November 09 Member No.: 338,034 Gender: Male Who is Your Favorite Naruto Character?: killerbee |
QUOTE (dissapointednaruto @ Aug 5 2009, 11:18 AM) Here are my thoughts... Killerbee seems to be more powerful, and he has control over his beast...so he "should have the advantage". On the other hand we know the fish has a LOT of chakra, superhuman strenght,and had gai sensei sweating on 30% of his power. Factors that may be important to consider. -If the eight tails is captured, Naruto becomes so much more relevant being the last host!!! -Kisame has an ongoing feud with Guy sensei if he is defeated now, the future fight won't be as exciting. -I cannot think of plot reasons why killerbee should win...It adds nothing to the plot except telling us that bee is powerful which we already know. All in all, I really want killerbee to destroy kisame, but somehow I think kisame is heading for victory (even worse...without showing the actual fight...) i think someone is going to help killer bee b/c when kisame is about to cut his feet off the sword stops him and gives killerbee some chakara i liked killerbee more but it not over because kisame kicks the sword off and takes killerbee's sword and it ended http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/472/15/ http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/472/16/ http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/472/17/ and oh yeah kisame can turn in to this http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/472/01/ |
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Nov 19 2009, 05:35 PM
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Academy Student Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 19-November 09 Member No.: 338,034 Gender: Male Who is Your Favorite Naruto Character?: killerbee |
QUOTE (zeriah @ Aug 5 2009, 08:34 PM) Kisame fought Gai with "30% of his chakra" not "30% of his power" that is a huge difference. That means Kisame's taijutsu against Gai as the clone was no better than Kisame is normally. The only difference is the amount of jutsus and the amount of power he can put into each jutsu. Now Kisame's chakra is so massive that even at 30% chakra he could probably use a good 10 full strength jutsu which is more than most people use in fights anyway. So really Kisame shouldn't be THAT much stronger than he was when he fought Gai. Itachi also thought Kisame wouldn't be a match for Kakashi back pre-timeskip. Now Bee is a beast, he easily handled all of Hawk on his own as just 3-tails. He could have easily defeated them all in that state if he wanted too, but decided to let himself be captured so they would leave him alone for a while. Archie if you honestly believe that Bee wasn't playing with those guys and allowed himself to be hit you are deluding yourself, it was already explained by Bee that he got hit deliberately. I can honestly say that Bee is probably the second strongest person in the series right now after Madara. So unless Kishi decides to contradict himself massively by making Kisame about twice as strong as Sasuke (when he is really only a bit above high jounin as seen by the Gai fight) or Kisame has some secret powerup that he could not use with "only" 30% of his chakra Bee should win comfortably. If Kishi allows Kisame to defeat Bee I will be immensely disappointed with him. He would have contradicted himself massively and the brilliant hierarchy of strength in the Naruverse will be a complete joke, just like Bleach. This is all I'm going to say in this topic, I don't want to get in anymore heated arguments =) yeah read this akatsuki members always have a trick to them that makes them almost invicible http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/472/01/ although i think kisame will not win |
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