Chapter 469 spoiler, After a week break |
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Chapter 469 spoiler, After a week break |
 Oct 27 2009, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (zeriah @ Oct 27 2009, 08:21 PM)  <3 you Matt but that's not really what I believe. Sure she hasn't said she loved him, but has she really had an opportunity to say it? What was she just going to do? Say it to thin air or proclaim it to Naruto to hurt him even more then she already was? The one time she did see Sasuke she was barely conscious from the feelings she was having. Every action she has taken, her body language, her treatment of Naruto all point to her still have firm feelings for Sasuke. As the guy above me said her confession just sounded like hot air, that she didn't really mean it. Naruto wouldn't say "I hate people who'd lie to themselves!" and "Cut the bullshit!" if it was just out of loyalty to his friend, it was because he doesn't believe what she said. Sure it could have been a severe translation error, but Sakura just sounded so halfhearted. "You were that mischievous dead-last... but little by little you've grown lovely and handsome... You were close to me so I saw it. But Sasuke-kun keeps committing crimes... It just breaks my heart... He's just become someone distant to me." "Nothing, really... I just opened my eyes... I don't need to love someone who is a missing-nin and a criminal, do I? I'm not going to be a child forever. I'm going to look reality in the eye." Perfect quotes of what I'm talking about. Sounds more like she is settling for Naruto because she has given up on Sasuke, feels guilty about what she has put Naruto through and that all he has done for her deserves some sort of reward. I don't think like the guy above me though, I don't think she is doing it to manipulate Naruto or hurt him at all. I think she doesn't know what to do or feel after what Sai said. Imagine yourself in her situation - Suddenly realizing that for 4 years or so someone has loved you deeply, done everything for you and that you have unknowingly been breaking his heart almost every day by being awful to him, but you don't feel the same way and you truly love another but he is away and a headcase that wants nothing to do with you? I'd probably rush over to the other person with hugely confusing and conflicting emotions. I think I'd feel huge feelings of gratitude, guilt and obligation and I'd suddenly think "Well the one who I truly love wants nothing to do with me" and "I could give it a shot right?" but that's not love, and if the person who has done all this for me is anything like what I thought she would probably see right through it. Sure in romantic chick flicks I might suddenly and without warning fall for the other girl, but not so much in real life. Instead of love I'd be feeling guilt and obligation and even if I did begin a relationship like that I don't think I'd truly be happy. I guess we will find out what she really feels soon though haha. <3 you too <333 The opportunity moment is a bleh thing. Also if you recall Naruto too was overcome with a lot of emotion when he first saw Sasuke as well. Now you probably will say 'Cause he views him as his brother' well can't Sakura say the same? Also if she did have the opportunity who is to say she wouldn't reach the conclusion she has come to now? I'm not taking any quotes because a lot of this breaks character... We shall see. Though it isn't past Naruto to say that just for Sasuke's sake. I mean... NARUTO WAS ON ALL FOURS BEGGING FOR SASUKE! Come on... As prideful as Naruto is, to do that for Sasuke... Once again your making speculation on basis in the past. You are acting as if she acted like Ino at the diner, all over Sai because he resembles Sasuke. There is no proof that she is still in love with Sasuke but there has been proof of previous chapters since the time-skip to prove that she has definitely been falling for Naruto. And so what if Naruto isn't her first choice of what she thought was love? Is it not the same situation for Naruto and Hinata? Hinata was nowhere NEAR his first choice, in fact you think about it Naruto is to Hinata as Sakura is to Naruto. But she does understand that he has been there for her through thick and thin. So what if it took awhile to open ones eyes? A lot of us ignore the person you would love the most because you take it for granted.... --------------------  QUOTE We stay here tonight (Don't let them find us or we're dead) Promise me you won't leave my side (The warmest place to lie my head) And when the sun comes up we fight (Don't let them find us or we're dead) So promise me you won't leave my side |
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Oct 27 2009, 09:05 PM
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 Hokage Group: NC Moderator Posts: 3,477 Joined: 18-May 07 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 176,616 Gender: Male Who is Your Favorite Naruto Character?: Jiraiya |
Here's something you seem to be forgetting Matt, while it's true that Naruto's feelings for Hinata are a lot like Sakura's feelings for Naruto so to are Sasuke's feelings for Sakura. Sasuke has not once shown any inclination that he returns Sakura's feelings. Naruto has been actively trying to win over Sakura since the day the manga started, and here it is handed to him on a silver platter. If Naruto believed what Sakura said he would be all over this. Of course it would be different if Sasuke does have feelings for Sakura but he doesn't. So why now does he pretty much spit in Sakura's face? I believe it is because he does not believe it. If the "I hate people who'd lie to themselves!" part is true he has pretty much confirmed it.
Naruto was overcome with emotion yes, but it was a completely different reaction then the one Sakura had. Sakura fell to her knee's crying with a look on her face of pure anguish and heart break. Naruto was merely stunned and soon began attacking him. The two did not have a similar reaction. Naruto also has never had romantic feelings for Sasuke like Sakura has, so yes saying Naruto having a brotherly type of reaction and Sakura a romantic type of reaction is a totally legit point. Matt Sakura's entire focus this timeskip has been Sasuke. Her body language screams her true feelings, if you really don't see anything there I don't know what to say =/. Naruto has never said he "loved" Sakura either but by your logic he has no feelings for her at all. Also there really has been no proof of Sakura falling for Naruto, the one and only thing has been what Yamato said back in the Oro arc. If anything I'd say Naruto and Sakura's relationship has been the most brotherly and sisterly that it has ever been and if anything Naruto is beginning to move on from Sakura. But then again it could just be my NaruHina bias blinding me. I don't really want to argue to you about it Matt, especially considering I am highly biased at this point. We will probably find out in a week or two anyway haha. --------------------  (THANKS MATT!!!!!!!!!!)  Be the Ultimate Ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today! "Child obesity up, pedophilia down" - American Dad "Buckethead is twice as good a guitar player as me and Slash combined." - Dave Mustaine "Well, that is actually true." - Slash BOW DOWN TO THE BUCKETHEAD! Other |
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Oct 27 2009, 11:31 PM
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Added an extra pic in the first post. This one of the battle between Kisame and Killer Bee.
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Oct 28 2009, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE (Rangiku_Matsumoto @ Oct 27 2009, 05:02 PM) @Tatsumaki I might be a little behind in the series, but didn't the whole village congratulate him when they returned? Or am I wrong? So off that, correct me if I'm wrong, Naruto has had a whole village respect him and to me it didn't look like he had a hard time believing it. I'm probably wrong though. My brain forgets way too easily. Anyway, how is it mature? That's what I want to know. Why is she telling him now? Why is she insisting on Naruto to forget Sasuke-kun? May you please explain how her "confession" is mature? I may just be basing my opinion on the characters in general and not so much on the past few events. The Pain issues were a major turning point for several characters, and the outcomes have thrown a lot of previous developments in new directions (Jiraiya, Kakashi, Naruto, etc.) but especially Naruto. I did not forget that Naruto was welcomed back to the village with cheers and gratitude after he had defeated Pain, but what did he do? He gazed, took it with stride and tended to other matters. There's nothing there to indicate that he was "used" to this behavior in any way. That is why it is significant to us as readers, because it is the first time it has happened. As for Sakura, I've always been under the impression that her love for Sasuke is more based on a high school crush and lust than actual love. Their relationship never really grew past Sakura chasing him and forcing herself upon him only for him to inevitably reject her. That screams immature to me. But to spend time with someone and gradually develop feelings for that person as you begin to understand who they actually are? That seems much, much more mature than the former. From a writing perspective, it actually creates some interesting messages within the story because of the relationships between Sasuke/Sakura and Sakura/Naruto. Relationships only last when the love goes both ways and when it isn't all take and no give. I think Sakura realized this when Sai smacked her upside the head. |
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Oct 28 2009, 12:15 PM
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 Kimimaro[Seal]Lv5  Group: Members Posts: 1,225 Joined: 23-July 08 From: CANADA! eh? Member No.: 263,044 Gender: Male Who is Your Favorite Naruto Character?: Sakura, Tenten and NEJI! and me. |
Looks like sakura is suffering from a severe case of PMS
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Oct 28 2009, 05:26 PM
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 Se7en  Group: NC moderator Posts: 24,933 Joined: 27-November 06 From: Las Noches Member No.: 111,431 Gender: Female Who is Your Favorite Naruto Character?: Uchiha Sasuke |
Okay, I get the whole Naruto not showing any indication of getting used to praise.
BUT, you got me when you claimed Sakura's affection towards Sasuke is just a "crush." Bullshark to the max. I'm sorry, but that saying to me has been proven time and time again wrong. I don't want to get into detail with that, though because I already have from a long time ago in this very forum. (Good ol' days) Remember Matty-boy  I do see your point Tatsumaki. Thanks for explaining --------------------  Mitsuhide Akechi made this sig for me! <3      Sigs that some awesome people made for me |
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Oct 29 2009, 09:51 AM
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Gosh even the pictures of Sakura confessing to Naruto is more sickening than reading the script lmao.
Next chapter, Naruto is going to be more pissed once he found out about the whole situation with Sasuke. Damn they came at the wrong time talking about that. Thanks Sakura for not being a reliable friend and promised not to insult Naruto, but did it anyway :/ |
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Oct 29 2009, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE (Rangiku_Matsumoto @ Oct 28 2009, 05:26 PM) Okay, I get the whole Naruto not showing any indication of getting used to praise. BUT, you got me when you claimed Sakura's affection towards Sasuke is just a "crush." Bullshark to the max. I'm sorry, but that saying to me has been proven time and time again wrong. I don't want to get into detail with that, though because I already have from a long time ago in this very forum. (Good ol' days) Remember Matty-boy I do see your point Tatsumaki. Thanks for explaining I don't mean to pry into the argument any further, but I am genuinely interested in this "proof" you speak of (for informative purposes - if there is something I don't know, I want to know). You don't have to explain it yourself, but if you could point me in a direction where I might be able to find it, I'd be most appreciative.  I think it is fair to say that our opinions are essentially apples and oranges on this matter, which is fine with me. I love a good debate every now and then, and the great thing about Naruto is that we eventually find out all the gushy little details! Here's hoping for a great issue next week! |
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Oct 29 2009, 10:46 AM
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SakonUkon[Seal]Lv4 Group: NC Moderator Posts: 1,096 Joined: 26-April 08 From: Konoha Member No.: 246,226 Gender: Male Who is Your Favorite Naruto Character?: Kakashi Hatake, Minato Namikaze, Itachi Uchiha, Jiraiya, Asuma Sarutobi, Hiruzen Sarutobi, Naruto after fighting Pein, Hashirama Senju. |
QUOTE (Tatsumaki @ Oct 29 2009, 11:09 AM) I don't mean to pry into the argument any further, but I am genuinely interested in this "proof" you speak of (for informative purposes - if there is something I don't know, I want to know). You don't have to explain it yourself, but if you could point me in a direction where I might be able to find it, I'd be most appreciative. I think it is fair to say that our opinions are essentially apples and oranges on this matter, which is fine with me. I love a good debate every now and then, and the great thing about Naruto is that we eventually find out all the gushy little details! Here's hoping for a great issue next week! Its simple to see that Sakuras feelings are not just based on a crush. See a crush would be what Ino has for Sasuke. Sakura after and before the timeskips always felt the same for Sasuke. Caring for him, always worrying about him, even when she saw him for the first time in episode 1 of shippuuden she was just utterly shocked. Now for Ino it was more of a crush because the times when we do see her she doesn't think of Sasuke or his well being. And all she could say that was relating to Sasuke was that Sai looked like him and that he was cute. Yes Sai reminded Sakura of Sasuke as well but it didn't faze her at all because she knew that it wasn't the same. Anyone who has had a crush (or who has seen enough chick flicks. Thx Wifey  lol) can see the difference.
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Oct 29 2009, 03:53 PM
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Se7en Group: NC moderator Posts: 24,933 Joined: 27-November 06 From: Las Noches Member No.: 111,431 Gender: Female Who is Your Favorite Naruto Character?: Uchiha Sasuke |
Tatsumaki, Mitsuhide Akechi's wife has answered for me.
 Thank you Mitsuhide's wife!!!!!! In fact there's more "proof", but I'll have to find you a good none-biased site. I can't remember the one I looked at, though. I'll try and find it.
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